and all of us in the public who are going through that. his positions on israel saying the political reality is that the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. but in the same interview, he said this, listen. >> and went onto say he supported the state of israel and supported whatever this country allies, something to th effect. will they be able to use these statements, despite the fact that they praised them since they were made to try and undermine this nomination. >> chuck hagel voted for $38 billion in foreign aid and defense aid to go to the state of israel. $38 billion over his senate career and his career on the senate foreign relations committee. that's a fact. i know there's some people in our party who are upset about an ambassador that was openly gay. well, the human rights committee has issued a statement saying they accept his apology. they forgive him and they understand how far he's come. they forgive him. that's good enough for the human rights committee. it's good enough for everyone in the united states senate, as well. >> we're going to leave it there.